polish nasa

A Polish NASA?

Surly some mistake? But no: a cross party group has decided to set up

a Polish rival to NASA. Well, not really a rival to it, but at least

have one that rivals...Italy's space agency [I didn't know they had

one, either]. So will we see a Polish Space Shuttle powering off the

launch pad at Warsaw airport anytime soon?

No. The project is a little more modest than that. But let's hope it's

not a Polish version of Galileo - not the EU's finest hour.

But while Brussels' has a Galileo complex, Warsaw must have a

Copernicus complex. At present Poland spends just 7 million euro on

space research - a little less than NASA's budget of 16 billion

dollars. But this hasn't stopped parliamentarians from having sky high

ambitions. Astronomia.pl takes up the story:

According to "Polska" daily newspaper, Polish deputies gathered in

the Outer Space Team are planning to set up a national space

agency, similar to the American NASA.

Poland participates in the PECS (Plan for European Cooperating

State Charter) programme carried out by the European Space Agency,

yet in this way Poland spends only a small fraction of all EU funds

allocated for space research [...]

The idea of a Polish space agency is supported by deputies from

different political parties. Yet, the route to such an agency is

very long, taking into account the fact that Poland does not even

have its own satellite in space.

Well...quite. `Could take time' as it `doesn't even have a

satellite...'

And I love the idea of there being a Polish parliamentary `Outer Space

Team'!

Team? I thought the whole parliament was from out of this world.

Basically, this is Polish MPs trying to think of ways to get more

money out of the EU. The whole of Poland is doing it. I am going to be

working on a project this year to try and get some single currency out

of Brussels. But it is a good idea, with a `social' angle...so I'm

entitled.

But what have the Poles been doing in 2007 with their 7 million euros?

Fortunately, the same astronomia.pl provides us with a summary of the

year:

A discovery of an extrasolar planet, participation in astronomical

projects, as well as numerous successes of Polish students within

international educational projects make up only a part of a summary

of the year 2007 as regards Polish astronomy.

But that's good. Discovering planets is one of the Poles' greatest

talents. They are at the forefront of planet discovery, in fact. Maybe

they just have good eyesight?

But I wonder if Polish astronomers this New Year did the same as those

wacky guys last year.

In mid-January, on the occasion of the Grand Finale of the Great

Orchestra of Christmas Charity, the radiotelescope situated in

Piwnice near Torun sent a radio signal to nearby stars with

greetings to any extraterrestrial civilisations.

Wacky! Maybe the legacy of Copernicus has left stars in those Polish

eyes.

Posted by beatroot at 1/01/2008

60 comments:

nemeczek said...

We did try to launch our own satellite. Unfortunately, the

rocket ran out of coal in mid-flight.

And Copernicus has not left any stars in Polish eyes. According

to Wikipedia, he was not Polish. He was European.

BTW, without looking it up, what does NASA stand for? Anyone? I

am almost sure you got it wrong...

12:46 AM

Brad Zimmerman said...

A Polish NASA? They already have so many ways in which to

pocket money, skim funds, give out free lunches to their

friends and otherwise abuse the taxpayers.

If Poland wants to get more involved in space they simply ought

to give some decent funding to a few universities to create the

next generation of astrophysicists.

1:25 PM

opamp said...

BR,

Congratulations. You have written a post which is completely

clueless and filled with prejudice. I'd expect more from a

supposedly enlightened European lecturing dark Polish massess.

In case you didn't know, you are already using a lot of

space-based services. You are browsing the Internet? Oh, your

data may go accross some satellite link along the way. Have

in-car navigation system? That's satellite based, baby. Wether

forecast? Damn right, they show you images on the TV every

night. That's a cable TV?

So you're watching a satellite feed distributed from a local

headstation in your neighborhood. You buy a map? It's drawn

from satellite pictures. Want to know if the farmers are not

cheating on EU dotations? Easy, just purchase the photo of an

interesting area in the infrared range and you see who is

growing which crops. Going on business to Afghanistan? Don't

start without a Thuraya satellite phone.

Heck, can you believe that German farmers already use tractors

equipped with OmniStar (augmented accuracy GPS service --

availabe for a modest price of about a thousand EUR per year)

to keep an exact track of how their fields are sprayed? You can

laugh your ass off at the thought of a satellite-equipped

Ursus, but they are laughing on their way to the bank (and so

is their service provider).

The point is, my friend, that Poland is currently buying all

these services abroad. What's more, we will have to continue

buying them, since no modern economy can do without. So if you

apply elementary economy to these facts you see that developing

your own space presence is a much better business than buying

everything abroad.

Also, don't expect Poland to develop its own launch system.

It's the most expensive part and launch services are now being

offered by Americans, French/ESA, Russians, Chinese and Indians

at competitive prices. But having your own satellites is where

the real money is.

I have heard of this initiative for the first time about two

years ago; I am happy to see it finally taking some form. It

will be a great business opportunity -- unless of course the

clueless journos (like you) ridicule it to death.

So, next time try to get an effing clue what you are writing

about.

1:46 PM

geez said...

Problem is, istm, are the folks behind the Polish NASA even

envisioning the building of satellites?

The article linked by BR only references these goals:

"allow Polish scientists and engineers to make use of their

potential within the framework of international research

projects. Moreover, such cooperation could bring tangible

benefits to Polish contractors participating in commercial

projects."

Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me for the Polish government

to invest money in such efforts.

Is that the problem here with some folks? The idea of the

gubmint setting up another gubmit agency instead of the money

coming from private sources?

2:38 PM

opamp said...

Is that the problem here with some folks? The idea of the

gubmint setting up another gubmit agency instead of the money

coming from private sources?

Not at all. All the interesting stuff in Europe is done with

gubmint money.

Contrary to the belief of free-market fundamentalists, all the

interesting stuff in US is also done with gubmint money, given

to private defense contractors.

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3:10 PM

beatroot said...

Opamp - don;t you think your comments are just a little over

the top?

3:16 PM

opamp said...

BR --

If anything is over the top here, it is your attitude to the

idea. Let me quote:

I am going to be working on a project this year to try and get

some single currency out of Brussels. But it is a good idea,

with a `social' angle...so I'm entitled.

Ah. So project with a 'social' angle is a good idea and worth

financing, while a technological one is not.

This is entirely backwards. EU is currently pumping heaps of

money into 'social' programs, which produce nothing, except a

sense of entitlement in the recipients. You can't develop

economy on welfare.

The technological programs are a different animal altogether.

They push the technology level up. New production processes

have to be developed. New factories built. New jobs created.

New people trained. After the program ends, all that remains

and starts working for the domestic economy. New products are

created. New services are offered. The competitiveness of the

national economy increases.

NASA doesn't exist anymore to send people to space. It exists

to create spin off companies. And it does: 50 new

commercializable products every year for the last 30 years.

That's a hell of a comepetitive edge.

There is a lot of EU money available for technological

development. Scores of programs. Space, materials,

nanotechnology, computer science; even seemingly low tech stuff

like agriculture, mining, construction, you-name-it. Poles

avoid that like a plague. The technological programs require

you to make you own investment and actually develop something

marketable. It is much more difficult than providing the

unemployed with psychological counselling. But the profits can

be huge. I've seen prototype devices which look like lifted

from a sci-fi movie. In Germany. France. Sweden. You'll see

this stuff on the shop shelves in under ten years.

And what will these your 'programs with a social angle

produce'? An unskilled, unemployed underclass, spending their

welfare on the aforementioned German/French/Swedish trinklets!

This attitude must be changed. The Polish industry must finally

start seeing benefits in technological developments, and not

only in worker exploitation. A space program would be a good

way.

There is no reason why Poland should be unable to stop being a

technological backwater. France did it, Finland did it, Poles

can too.

No reason other than stupid inferiority compex, that is.

4:29 PM

nemeczek said...

Opamp: Maybe the 'social' angle projects are designed to help

Poles who had their sense-of-humor gland removed at birth? Just

a thought... Nobody wants to send humorless astronauts to the

Milky Way, after all.

4:40 PM

Anonymous said...

Cut me a break - is this April Fools? They cannot even get the

airport open!

6:10 PM

beatroot said...

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6:50 PM

beatroot said...

Opamp - have you had irony by-pass surgery, or what?

:-)

6:51 PM

beatroot said...

Maybe I should explain, Op, why I think his story is just a

funny little story. Nothing more. .

What caught my eye was this from astronomia.pl (a reputable

Polish site):

According to "Polska" daily newspaper, Polish deputies gathered

in the Outer Space Team are planning to set up a national space

agency, similar to the American NASA.

Opamp - the Poles are going to build a `space agency' `similar

to NASA.'?

:-)...No, they are NOT going to be building anything like NASA.

Astronomia ( a POLISH web site) then goes on...

Yet, the route to such an agency is very long, taking into

account the fact that Poland does not even have its own

satellite in space.

Well, indeed.

And a parliamentary `Outer Space Team' is just funny.

And then when I say: I am going to be working on a project this

year to try and get some single currency out of Brussels. But

it is a good idea, with a `social' angle...so I'm entitled.

..come on, it's obvious I am being ironic. But I still do think

my project is more worthwhile than anyone elses'...

But I do appreciate your knowledge on the subject. I remember

we were chatting about cosmology once (a subject I am actually

interested in) and you seemed to know what you were talking

about

Basically, the heroes of my little post that I knocked up in

ten minutes because I thought it was a funny story - or a story

that had been presented as being funny - are Polish planet

seekers. Poland has idenitified several new ones over the last

few years.

The bad guys are those in control of the EU's Galileo project.

A shambles.

7:14 PM

geez said...

BR, your sense of humor just ain't exactly *similar* to the

Polish sense of humor.

Also let's not forget how sensitive Poles the world over are to

being made to look like dummies in jokes. It's one thing for

Nemeczek to crack about the coal running out or anon about the

airports not being plowed, but another thing for a non-Pole to

do so (even if you are "blood" vis-a-vis your Polish mate)."

Funny stuff aside, are you opposed to a Polish

government-funded agency with the purpose of:

"allow(ing) Polish scientists and engineers to make use of

their potential within the framework of international research

projects. Moreover, such cooperation could bring tangible

benefits to Polish contractors participating in commercial

projects." ???

8:21 PM

beatroot said...

I am very much for much more research into space,generally.

Think back to landing on the moon, not thirty years ago.

Fantastic excitment about it - amazing acheivment.

These days they are delighted if the space shuttle gets back

from orbit around the Earth without any of its ceiling tiles

fallin orf.

Sad how high hopes turned to low expectations.

8:32 PM

geez said...

Thing is, if space exploration becomes privatized without

something like a NASA directing and regulating it all, all

kinds of bad shit will wind up there.

That may happen or be happening anyway with so many other

countries launching stuff up there now.

9:04 PM

beatroot said...

And what do you imagine NASA is launching up there? Barbie

Dolls?

9:11 PM

geez said...

Well, what do you consider bad space shit?

I would consider it bad shit if Barbie Dolls and other waste

products were orbiting the earth up there.

Or toxic / radioactive wastes.

What other kind of bad shit is up there now? ... I ask

altogether naively...

1:44 AM

Renegade Eye said...

They should invest in a great telescope.

7:46 AM

beakerkin said...

Beatroot

If the Polish people want to create their own agencies, so be

it. Poland has the right to develop its future according to the

wishes of the Polish people.

This post once again shows your contempt for the people you

live amongst. Sorry, but the people of Poland have their own

values that are quite different from those of busy body

ex-patriates. Perhaps you should learn from the Poles around

you instead of lecturing them from Mount Olympus.

The future of Poland should be determined by the Polish people.

Last I checked this does not include smarmy condescending

ex-patriates.

I wonder how far this act would go in Hugo's blunderland. How

long would it take the faithful to kick the all knowing, amoral

and elitist

Beatroot out of the wonderland he endorses.

The fact that the Polish people put up with this arrogance

proves that Poland is superior country.

11:58 AM

mao ding dong said...

Last time I looked, Chavez lost an election and his opponents

were neither exiled or thrown in jail.

And now, all so tragicallly, Beakerskin is having fantasies

about Beatroot being a Greek God.

12:57 PM

opamp said...

@BR:

Astronomia.pl has a poll asking people what they think about

the idea. As for now the results are:

it's a great idea, which will help to realize a full potential

of our scientists and engineers - 56%

such agency requires much more spending than is available for

the Polish science - 36%

it can be postponed, there are more important areas in science

and technology that should be developed - 9%

That speaks volumes.

And besides, did you know that nowadays everyone and their cat

has a space agency? Bangladesh has one. Peru. Romania.

Colombia. Argentina. So, there's nothing megalomaniac about

having a space agency.

No, they are NOT going to be building anything like NASA.

Sure not. I wrote that myself (the part about the launch

system). NASA is in the text most probably because most readers

should know what it is.

And a parliamentary `Outer Space Team' is just funny.

Indeed :-) Probably though, it's a lousy translation of

something like Zesp�l/ d/s Przestrzeni Kosmicznej which would

mean "Workgroup for the matters of the Outer Space" -- a

perfectly dry bureaucratic name. But yeah, the translator

deserved it. :-)

But the basic problem is that it could have been a very nice

post if you researched it correctly. Instead we got a stupid

Pole bashing on the intellectual level of the Polish jokes.

Basically, the heroes of my little post that I knocked up in

ten minutes because I thought it was a funny story - or a story

that had been presented as being funny - are Polish planet

seekers. Poland has idenitified several new ones over the last

few years.

Oh yeah. Maybe they just have good eyesight? That reeks of

respect, surely. Again, a five minutes of googling would show

you how this world-level stuff is done. But, no. The Poles did

it, they must be doing it withtheir own eyes...

This subject would warrant a more serious post about that, no?

Suffice to mention that the first extrasolar planets have been

discovered in 1993 by a Pole, Alexander Wolszczan. Think what

implications such discovery had. If an American did that, he

would get a Nobel prize in physics, or at least a Time magazine

cover (and a fiery condemnation from some fundamentalist

creationist pastor). Wolszczan got no recognition outside

specialist circles. He still works at a third-rate U.S.

university. I wonder, what part the anti-Polish prejudice

played here?

The prosecution rests.

4:31 PM

geez said...

Op wrote:

That speaks volumes.

Well, it tells us that 44% of Poles selected and responding to

a poll are not at all keen on the idea of a space agency.

And the prosecuratoral summation doesn't really inform us as to

Beatroot's position on the matter, aside from ascertaining that

his sense of humor can rankle some folks' sensibilities.

Unless, Mr. Prosecutor, you are so sure what is in his

heart-of-hearts, my suggestion would be to get over the

Robespierre schtick.

12:49 PM

nemeczek said...

The problem with anything 'astro-' and 'cosmo-' is that results

of such research, no matter how spectacular to the insiders,

have no beneficial impact on the quality of life on this small

planet of ours. In any research grant application, potential

best-case-scenario benefits need to be explicitly stated -

doing research for the sake of it does not cut it. It might be

interesting to know what is on the edge of a black hole but,

unless you are in a wheelchair and speaking through a voice

generator, your discoveries do not even have any entertainment

value. Beatroot's piece tries to fill this void. And once the

Lisbon Strategy objectives have been met the European science,

we then will be able to focus on more esoteric research - white

dwarfs do not feed the aged.

3:52 PM

geez said...

Speaking of cosmologists and the like, I noticed this in the

Wikipedia article on the Marivites:

"It should be noted that at the location of the papal residence

at Castel Gandalfo where there is located a noted observatory,

that little known ecumenical activities have taken place. In

the 1980s observations at Castel Gandalfo were led by a Polish

astronomer, who at the same time is a priest and professor of

the Old Catholic Church of the Mariavites, Rev. Konrad Maria

Pawel Rudnicki. The late Pope John Paul II - a fact without

precedence - allowed Rev. Rudnicki to celebrate the Mariavite

Mass in his private chapel."

BTW, I've read that 1975 book on the Mariavites and it seems

that Bishop Kowalski was quite the horn dog, to say the least.

Sure seems like he *initiated* (reportedly a four step process)

each of his future priestesses (and more than a few very young

lady mandolin players)before assigning and polygamically

sharing them with his male priests/bishops.

One of the best things about the book was the author's

interviews with some of the children without original sin who

came out of these *consecrations* - they were raised

communally. Also cool was the interview with Sister Love, who

was Kowalski's main love interest who later split from the

movement with another priest. Kowalski, y'see was a bit of a

tub o'lard (trying to replicate the death belly of Mateczka

Kozlowska?). Oh, yea, according to the book's author, it also

seems Kowalski used to *initiate* his ladies on the deathbed

couch of the Mateczka (where he may also have first had some

kind of spirtitual union with her):

Jerzy Peterkiewicz. The Third Adam. London. Oxford University

Press, 1975.

I wonder if that couch is still around in Plock or Felicjanow?

If so, I hope it's been reupholstered.

6:03 PM

beakerkin said...

If THE BEATROOT (what is with the THE

bit more egotism) met Copernicus he would hector him about

being an ambitious wannabe American. The Beatroot defines

everything on the planet in terms of Americanism. This cartoon

like obsession is almost Elmer Fudd like.

Beatwoot: I think I saw an Amewican.

Ooooohhhh I hate them Amewican wascally wabbits.

Casmir: But I am a Polish horse with a work ethic.

Beatwoot: A work ethic and wanting to provide jobs for Poles is

Amewicanism. It is far betwer to sip the Jim Jones Koolaide

with some wetro Eurocommies in the salon. Don't work, don't

punish cwiminals, bring in people who don't work with deadwy

communicawble diseases and wead the ecomowist wike me.

Casmir: But I want a better Poland for my family and people.

Beatwoot: That's pwimative Amerwicanism. Next thing you know

you'll be in Church and wistening to Fox news.

Casmir: You have a problem with Church?

Beatwoot: No I wike the age of weason. The athesists are just

so well behaved aside from guwags, guiolitines and cwass

genocide.

Casmir: That seems like a bit to overlook.

Beatwoot: You weally shouldn't think for yourswelf.

Indiwiduality is a bad things let your bettwers think for you.

Casmir: I am my own Polish horse.

Beatwoot: Pwimative Amerwican bwainwashed impostwer.

The Beatroot is a cartoon

7:03 PM

mao ding dong said...

Fweakerfwuk can't even spell the Americanized version of

Kazimierz.

It's Casimir, Fweak.

And I hear that Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests

has begun to confront Ghouliani on the campaign trail

protesting his continuted employment of his childhood friend

Alan Placa, a priest who has been accused of molesting one

child and using his lawyer skills to help a diocese keep other

molestation incidents under wraps.

7:33 PM

beakerkin said...

The spwelling misthakes are pwart of the Beatwoot comedwy

thircus. Even in immigwation we don't see too many Casimirs. We

do see alot of kids named Lenin and Stalin by stoopid people in

watin Amewika. Funny but nobody wecalls any named Twatsky.

Sorry but this defining everything in terms of Americanism is

quite funny. Perhaps the Beatroot should go into stand up

comedy.

I think The Beatroot as Elmer Fudd telling Casimir the Polish

horse how to be an enlightened Pole would be a great cartoon.

Perhaps we can add a female Boguslawa the cat.

Al least you got the ding dong part correct.

Poland deserves better expatriates

than this crew.

8:58 PM

Meg Q said...

BTW, without looking it up, what does NASA stand for? Anyone? I

am almost sure you got it wrong...

I *think* it's either the National Administration for Space and

Aeronautics OR the National Aeronautics and Space

Administration - leaning towards the second . . . lemme go

Google . . .

http://www.nasa.gov/

Yup, it's the second one. Never can keep the "A" words

straight. I *should* know that, given that every time we went

to Galveston or visited family in Houston, we had to go out to

the Johnson Space Center in Clear Lake. My sister and I used to

joke, "Clear Lake, we have a problem!" . . . buuuut none of our

friends thought it was funny.

The freeze-dried ice cream was always fun, though. And the

retro logo still rocks.

By ancestry, Kopernik was half what we would call German,

half-Polish. More or less. It's still debated today. As to

nationality, that wasn't really a concept that existed in his

time, but through his whole life he was a faithful subject of

the Polish king, in a time of shifting political *and*

religious alliances. So, take your pick. I pick German-Pole

(i.e., a Pole of influential German ancestry). (P.S. read

Wikipedia again - I don't think it says he was "European".

Though, in a sense, he was that, too.)

2:17 AM

nemeczek said...

meg q:

I guess most Europeans, especially from non-English speaking

countries, would think of NASA as something `North American' or

`North Atlantic' by analogy with NATO...

The Wikipedia entry on Copernicus is in constant flux. It is

apparent from the discussion and archive pages that there are

two camps promoting their own views. In the past NC was

described as a Pole, a German, or a European - now he is of no

nationality. In the current entry on NC's nationality, the

references to his Polishness are always put in quotation marks.

It is a standard trick used by writers who want to help their

readers to distinguish the truth from the alleged truth. I wish

Colbert and his crew got involved (as they did with the entry

for elephant)...

10:54 PM

luridtraversal said...

It's very comforting knowing that Comrade Beakertwat is looking

out for our Purity of Essence, and protecting the good ol' U.

S. of A against all us wacky and zany commies who are out to

fluoridate EVERYTHING!!!! I want to fluoridate ice cream.

Children's ice cream Mandrake!!! Beakertwat...do you believe

that when you're engaged in the physical act of love women are

after your essence or power? Just curious. But now I have to

get back to spreading fluoridation throughout the world!!!!

Maybe we'll name our child Hugo as well...hmmmmmmmm. Now we

just have to finish setting up our commie fluoridation cell in

Wyoming, and the world is ours!!!!!!!!!!!!

mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

4:37 PM

jannowak57 said...

1) Those fucking Germans should stop vandalizing Wikipedia,

Copernicus was Polish.

2) Fluoridation is good; it prevents the creation of toothless

liberals.

3) When a committee decides its safe to fly in a space shuttle

with a defective heat shield, NASA stands for Need Another

Seven Astronauts.

4) Should Polish astronomer conduct their work in secret as

past experience indicates they run afoul of the Catholic

Church?

In 1633 Galileo Galilei was convicted of grave suspicion of

heresy for "following the position of Copernicus, which is

contrary to the true sense and authority of Holy Scripture,"

and was placed under house arrest for the rest of his life.

5) Beatroot you have an opportunity of having a street named

after you in Rzesz�w, of course you should use beakerkin for a

reference.

In an effort to rename streets and institutions the following

are being considered:

Jaruzelski School of Labour Relations

Kania Institute for Human Rights

General Walter - Polish / Ukrainian Friendship Society

10:10 PM

beakerkin said...

Lurid

Remain where you are. The United States does not need you. I

think the next bit will add a low testoterone

self hating American skunk named Lurid. I will add a rabid

demented monkey named Geez.

The Beatroot does not understand the Polish people want the

best for their country. They desire the creation of high tech

jobs as opposed to endless saftey nets. The Beatroot often

writes inane stuff to please his mindless peers on the

left. Any serious discussion should

begin with is this a good way to build future jobs for Poland.

A society that wants to create jobs

is a good development. This may not be the best way to foster

growth, but it is an interesting idea.

Perhaps the next one will be to send far left American

Educators in Poland to North Korea. No doubt, Lurid's students

have a perfect subject for "dumb American" jokes.

11:15 AM

schaden freud said...

It's not that you have a high testoterone (sic) level,

Tweakertwit. You just don't have a human outlet for your sexual

frustrations. And I enjoy shaking the jar in which you crawl

around.

1:15 PM

luridtraversal said...

Beakertwat: how many more times are you going to tell me to

stay in POland? It's honestly getting boring...

Back to planning up some new collective farming plans and other

nefarious activities!!!!

2:57 PM

luridtraversal said...

And I'm not a "far-left" American educator...I'm a far-left

travel agent. I teach English just from time to time now. Nice

one though.

2:59 PM

Anonymous said...

As i expected Poles are inherently racist; judging by the

attacks on our British asian community that is ,it would seem

it's not only the bnp who are concerned with the level of

immigration from our eastern neighbours but the entire asian

community from our northern mill towns...they're not happy poor

souls.

11:42 PM

jannowak57 said...

Anonymous said: "As i expected Poles are inherently racist;

judging by the attacks on our British asian community"

What an inaccurate and insensitive generalization if you have

been following this Blog then you would have seen all the

people that came forward to defend, support and or apologize

for Simon Mole. A person of colour involved in a controversy.

See all the caring and feeling liberals we have amongst us.

By some estimations an outright surplus of these types.

As far as attacks on the Asian community, what cheap narcotics

are you on? As everyone knows the threats and the aggression

has come from the Asian community in nearly every instance.

When this community, which has become only all too British, saw

people prepared to work for a living and not stick their hand

out for social assistance (welfare) then they went a little

crazy.

Some British papers have even suggested that our lads are

pursuing asian women, which is causing friction. Who knows

maybe the ladies are taken by a culture that doesn't have to

Prove you point shows us the statistics?

Ok you dumb shit what does this have to do with a Polish space

agency?

12:38 AM

geez said...

Who posting on this blog defended, supported or apologized for

Mol?

And you're once again proving what a racist you are 57, only

this time vis-a-vis Asians.

1:59 AM

Anonymous said...

As everyone knows the threats and the aggression has come from

the Asian community in nearly every instance...

I rest my case,point proven...racist!!!

10:24 AM

beakerkin said...

What is this garbage about Poles being racist? In any crowd of

large people one can find a few wingnuts.

The comment itself is bigoted and illogical.

Lurid, as a travel agent book yourself a trip to North Korea.

Leave your Polish wife behind as her only crime is having

dreadful taste in almost men.

You can see the wonders of Communism first hand. Then go South

and notice the difference. Then remain in North Korea as a

court jester.

11:10 AM

luridtraversal said...

Instead of North Korea, I think I'll move back to the good ole

U.S. of A., and teach Social Studies to your future children.

Either that or set up a super duper secret commie cell in Rhode

Island!!! And then we will drink the blood of the infants while

masturbating alternatively to pictures of Geoge W., and Stalin.

With a little Pol Pot thrown in for the kink!!! Beakertwat.

You're an idiot. I recommend you watch Dr. Strangelove and take

notes. There's a character in that movie who you've obviously

adopted as your personality. In actuality you jackass I'm

probably more conservative than yourself. But you're too dumb

to notice. You're a sad pathetic person. You really remind me

of people who went to University in the States and discovered

that they could have shock value and piss people off if they

pretended to be a conservative. Good luck with it. You're a

moron, but you're certainly entertaining. I eagerly await your

next comment informing me to stay where I am, or go to some

communist shit-hole...

Maybe, just for me you could come up with something new???

Pretty please comrade? With butter and cheese?????

12:54 PM

mao ding dong said...

Talk about an idle threat:

Instead of North Korea, I think I'll move back to the good ole

U.S. of A., and teach Social Studies to your future children.

1:06 PM

luridtraversal said...

Mao said: "Talk about an idle threat"

How exactly is that an idle threat friend? I actually happen to

be a social studies teacher and an American citizen. Last I

checked I can move back whenever I would like. Please feel free

to inform me of my own intentions from now on though!!!

3:02 PM

jannowak57 said...

geez you piece of shit knee jerk liberal!

How do you arrive on racist from my comment, please explain

your logic, which is if someone with your limited education is

capable of reason and logic. Did you loose your mind when your

priest butt fucked you as a child?

Anonymous please strangle your mother, as your birth is a crime

against nature.

So far nearly all support agencies and community groups in the

Polish community in the UK are reporting vandalism and assaults

against the polish community. These are occurring in the poor

neighbourhoods the newcomers have to reside in. These areas

have large asian communities, which view the Poles as economic

competition.

6:08 PM

Anonymous said...

jannowak57:They have to reside in poor neighbourhoods?What

fukin pills are you popping?No they don't,no ones FORCING them

to live there.ffs...racist t***t.!!!!

10:20 PM

mao ding-dong said...

lurid, the return to America, teaching bit didn't seem

necessarily idle to me. The bit about Fweakerfwat having kids,

though... a bit far-fetched, doncha think?

10:38 PM

geez said...

These comments of yours are indicative of the abundant racism

you harbor, 57:

"When this community ... saw people prepared to work for a

living and not stick their hand out for social assistance

(welfare) then they went a little crazy."

"Who knows maybe the ladies are taken by a culture that doesn't

And again, who posting on this blog defended, supported or

apologized for Mol, as you claim?

10:46 PM

beakerkin said...

The rabid monkey Geez likes to post about his ding dong and is

worried about my proclivities.

Lurid

The United States of America does not need you. You are

superfluous and should think of a career change. Perhaps you

can find a job in the Polish Insane Asylum that lets Geez on

the internet.